Comments on: Behind an internet meme

By: foureyes

foureyes — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:17:55 +0000

Got here from FAcebook, love it. CSS is a real pain for layout, great fro styles. The real issue is that browser writess should adhere to ‘the standards’ then all who write web pages can get on with the job.

iiii

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:55:07 +0000

I’m here from StackOverflow.com.

TRiG.

By: Budgeteer

Budgeteer — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:23:01 +0000

What is best practice? As far as I’m concerned it’s what I can do to get a site up without going insane trying to adhere to “standards”. Too much attention is being paid to W3C…I ignore most everything the purists and elitists talk about…in my web life and personal life and I find I’m a lot happier than the person who lives to adjust to “standards”. Tables work…pure and simple…and unless Dreamweaver eliminates them I’ll use them. My sites are all table-based, Google ranked, indexed, blah blah…only designers who look at the source code complain about my sites…my clients who pop up first in a Google search have no issues. CSS is fine for style sheets…for layout I can’t be bothered.

By: Kristen Ankiewicz

Kristen Ankiewicz — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:49:45 +0000

CSS is the magical unicorn the web. You can spend forever toiling for the dream and still never see it in action. Wasn’t CSS supposed to solve all my layout issues? Then why does it seem to create more problems than it solves? How good can it be if it requires so many damn hacks and inelegant solutions?

/rant

By: andy

andy — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:42:29 +0000

I’ve been working for hours frustrated with the inconsistencies between semi-compliant firefox and non-compliant ie. You know what, I don’t care if I’m part of some snooty community whose code doesn’t work worth crap on any major browser. I thought about nixing IE but the market share is too much to pass up. Then I found the display: table and thought that was gold. But that doesn’t work in IE 6 or 7. Which still have 30.3% market share. Can’t look like crap to 3/10.
You know what? I don’t care if table’s weren’t designed for layout, guess what, THEY WORK 100% of the time. And the only person who would notice that I used *gasp* tables for layout will be another designer, and he could just suck it or redesign it to try to make it compliant.
I could give a crap about the search engine’s either. They can suck it too. This isn’t a website to make money, just for our church. I LOVE TABLES AGAIN!

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:11:56 +0000

Great story! I have been designing web sites off and on since 1995, so tables have been my main stay for a long time. Now I use CSS XHTML and DIV etc, but still use the occasional table. I think we should try to follow best practice, but hell! we don’t have to make life difficult for ourselves.
I got here from this article:
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/04/08/from-table-hell-to-div-hell/
which is full of good ideas.
Thanks
Richard

By: Kelly

Kelly — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:15:25 +0000

I have been working on a client project in which I am converting his TABLE-Based layout to a CSS/XHTML div based layout, and I took a break just to find this article!! At first I did not realize it was a joke (I was a little concerned!), but wow, I love the story!! And I’ve been there with the Frustration. Especially early on. Now, I find CSS to be downright addicting and a lot of fun. I would never dream of using tables because they are just too hard in the long run and not nearly as search engine friendly as a site made with s and XHTML. I never stopped at 47 minutes!! Hell, I spent months trying to figure it all out!!! Now I can make a layout in under 10min.!!
So never give up! At least not permanently. Thanks for sharing!
Kelly

By: Hatim

Hatim — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:07:40 +0000

Oh I feel your pain with CSS. I still think that neither css nor tables are the perfect way to layout content on a web page and that we should have a somewhat more flexible and easier way to do it.

By: Zack

Zack — Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:56:37 +0000

I could not agree with you more!

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The not-so-great debate - Jeremy Frank — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:17:13 +0000

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